Jonathan Karl Is On The Front Lines Of Trump's Coronavirus Press Briefings

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK TO”THE LATE SHOW”” ALREADY IN PROGRESS.

I HOPE.

FOLKS, MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT ISTHE CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR ABC NEWS, PRESIDENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS' ASSOCIATION, ANDHAS A BRAND-NEW BOOK CALLED, “FRONT ROW AT THE TRUMP SHOW.

” PLEASE WELCOME JONATHAN KARL! HEY, JONATHAN, THANKS FOR BEINGHERE.

>> GREAT TO BE HERE.

I NEVER THOUGHT THE ED SULLIVANTHEATER WOULD BE LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.

>> Stephen: THE BEATLES PLAYEDRIGHT UP HERE.

>> EXCELLENT.

>> Stephen: AND I THINK ELVISPRESSLEY WAS IN ONE OF THESE PIJION HOLES RIGHT HERE.

WHERE ARE WE CATCHING YOU? ARE YOU AT HOME? >> I AM AT HOME.

THIS IS THE HOME OFFICE.

WE ARE ALL WORKING AT HOME ASMUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, WHEPT I I HAVE TO GO TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU FORPUTTING THE EMMYS BEHIND YOU.

>> I JUST PICKED THEM UP.

>> Stephen: I WOULD HAVE PUTMINE UP, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM IN HERE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: NOW, MYUNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A MEMBER OF THE WHITE HOUSECORRESPONDENTS' ASSOCIATION WHO ACTUALLY HAS TESTED POSITIVE FORTHE CORONAVIRUS.

IS THAT TRUE? AND HOW IS HE OR SHE DOING? >> YEAH, WE FOUND OUT ONE OF OURCOLLEAGUES NOT TESTED POSITIVE, STEPHEN.

WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TESTRESULTS YET, BUT CAME DOWN WITH SYMPTOMS, IS A SUSPECTED CASE OFCORONAVIRUS, CAME DOWN WITH THIS OVER A WEEK AGO.

ACTUALLY GOT TESTED EIGHT DAYSAGO, AND AS OF– AS OF LATE YESTERDAY, STILL HAD NOT GOTTENANY TEST RESULTS BACK.

SO WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUTALL OTHER TESTS HAVE COME BACK NEGATIVE, AND IT SURE SEEMS LIKEOUR COLLEAGUE HAS CORONAVIRUS.

>> Stephen: THAT IS THAADSEEMS REALLY SURPRISING THAT YOU CAN'T GET A QUICKER TEST RESULTFOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT ONLY IN AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE, WHICH ISINFORMING THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IS ALSO INCLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, ANDMEMBERS OF THE CABINET.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THEHOLD-UP IS? >> IT'S REALLY UNBELIEVABLEAUTOMOBILE.

3 AND I'VE BEEN TRYING– I'VE BEENASKING EVERY SINGLE DAY ABOUT THIS.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OF INTENSEINTEREST TO EVERYBODY WHO IS THERE.

YOU MENTIONED THE PUBLICOFFICIALS, BUT ALSO ALL OF US IN THE BRIEFING ROOM, ALL OF USTHAT WORK AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE WORK INCLOSE PROXIMITY TO, AND WE CANNOT GET AN ANSWER.

IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THE TEST, AND I HAVE NO REAL EXPLANATION FOR WHY.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU, IT IS ALITTLE MADDENING TO HEAR IN THOSE BRIEFINGS A LOT OFSELF-CONGRATULATIONSES ABOUT HOW GREAT THE TESTING IS GOING NOWWHEN WE KNOW THAT ONE OF OUR OWN COLLEAGUES IS WAITING NOW OVER AWEEK TO GET TEST RESULTS.

>> Stephen: THESE AFTERNOONPRESS AVAILABILITIES WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THE CORONAVIRUSTEAM, THAT THEY'RE DOOR, AS THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF HAS SAID, HAVEHAD INCREDIBLE RATINGS, PEOPLE ARE TUNING IN.

BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN A QUESTIONABOUT WHETHER IT'S RESPONSIBLE TO BROADCAST OR TO REPORT ONTHESE CORONAVIRUS PRESS AVAILABILITIES BECAUSE SO MUCHMISINFORMATION IS BEING GIVEN BY THE PRESIDENT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PURPOSESOF THESE MEETINGS ARE? >> WELL, I THINK THAT'S ALEGITIMATE DEBATE.

I THINK THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS:ONE, SHOULD WE COVER THEM? SHOULD WE BE THERE? SHOULD WE BE REPORTING ON IT? I THINK THE ANSWER IS EASY, ABSOLUTELY, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GO THERE, ASKQUESTIONS OF THE PRESIDENT, ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PEOPLE LEADINGTHIS EFFORT FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

BUT WHETHER THEY SHOULD BECARRIED LIVE AND UNFILTERED I THINK IS A LEGITIMATE DEBATE.

WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO ISPROVIDE THE CONTEXT.

AND JUST THE OTHER DAY, THEPRESIDENT SAID A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ACTUALLY WERE NOTTRUE, AND I CAME ON WITH MY COLLEAGUE, GEORGESTEPHANOPOULOS, RIGHT AFTER, AND WE WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF, “WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

” BUT THERE IS IMPORTANTINFORMATION YOU GET FROM THEM.

THAT'S OUR CHANCE TO ANTHONYFAUCI, TO TALK TO VICE PRESIDENT PENCE WHO IS LEADING THE EFFORT, DR.

BIRKS.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE IT'S TREASURYSECRETARY HAS BEEN IN THERE SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE ECONOMICEFFECTS.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR USTO BE COVERING.

WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BECARRIED LIVE OR UNFILTERED I THINK IS ACTUALLY A LEGITIMATEDEBATE.

>> Stephen: ONE OF THECHALLENGES OF COVERING THE PRESIDENT IS NOT JUST THEMISINFORMATION THAT MIGHT COME OUT AT ONE OF THESE PRESSAVAILABILITIES, BUT ALSO HE WANTS TO MAKE IT ABOUT EXPHIMSWE MIGHT LOSE SIGHT OF THE ACTUAL INFORMATION WE SHOULD BELEARNING.

IT BECOMES VERY EMOTIONAL ANDPERSONAL FOR HIM.

FOR INSTANCE, LAST FRIDAY YOUPRESSED HIM ON THE AVAILABILITY OF VENTILATORS, I BELIEVE, ANDHE SAID, “DON'T BE A CUTIE PIE.

” AM I REPORTING THAT ACCURATELY? >> YOU ARE.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> IT WAS– IT WAS– IT WASTRULY THE STRANGEST MOMENT THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED WITH APRESIDENT AT A PRESS CONFERENCE BECAUSE MY QUESTION– MY EXACTQUESTION– YOU KNOW, THIS WAS AFTER GOVERNOR CUOMO SAID THATNEW YORK WAS GOING TO NEED– NEW YORK ALONE WAS GOING TO NEED30, 000 TO 40, 000 VENTILATORS IN THE COMING WEEKS AND THEY WEREONLY GETTING A MATTER OF A FEW THOUSANDS FROM THE FEDERALGOVERNMENT, AND I ASKED HIM– AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALLTHESE EFFORTS THEY WERE DOING TO GET MORE VENTILATORS INTOPRODUCTION, TO FORCE G.

M.

TO DO IT AND ALL THAT.

MY QUESTION WAS SIMPLY, “CAN YOUASSURE US THAT THE GOVERNORS AND HOSPITALS WILL BE ABLE TO GETENOUGH VENTILATORS SO THAT EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS ONE WILLHAVE ONE?” AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THECENTRAL QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS NOT– AND HE DID NOT LIKE TOBE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT.

AND THAT'S WHEN HE SAID, “DON'TBE A CUTIE PIE.

” I DON'T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY WHATTHAT MEANS.

HE ALSO TOLD ME IN THE SAMESENTENCE THAT I WAS BEING A WISE GUY, SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT WAS WEIRD.

>> Stephen: JONATHAN, DO YOUTHINK YOU BEAR ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR BEING A CUTIEPIE? BECAUSE YOU ARE OBJECTIVELY ACUTIE PIE.

>> –I– I– I DON'T THINK SO.

>> Stephen: I REMEMBER WHENYOU WERE ONE OF THE YOUNG GUNS AT CNN.

>> YEAH, I– I– THIS HAS NOTBEEN MY ASPIRATION, NO, NO.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

WELL, YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A COPY OFIT HERE.

DO YOU HAVE–>> I ACTUALLY DO, FUNNY THING, RIGHT HERE.

>> Stephen: THERE YOU GO.

“FRONT ROW AT THE TRUMP SHOW”ABOUT YOUR FOUR YEARS OF COVERING TRUMP SO FAR, IS IT? >> IT'S 26 YEARS, STEPHEN, 26YEARS.

>> Stephen: THAT'S RIGHT.

BECAUSE YOU WERE IN A REPORTERFOR THE “NEW YORK POST.

” >> YES.

>> Stephen: IS THERE ANYTHINGTHAT TRUMP HAS DONE AS PRESIDENT THAT SURPRISED YOU BASED UPONYOUR KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH HIS BEHAVIOR AND HIS CHARACTER FROMALL THE YEARS YOU COVERED HIM IN NEW YORK? >> HE'S INCREDIBLY ERRATIC.

HE'S INCREDIBLY UNPREDICTABLE.

HE GOVERNS BY GUT, JUST LIKE HEACTED AS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER.

BUT, ACTUALLY, I THINK HE HASBEEN ULTIMATELY ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE IN THATUNPREDICTABILITY.

BUT THERE IS– THERE WAS ONEMOMENT THAT WAS REALLY SURPRISING TO ME.

I HAPPENED TO BE IN THE OVALOFFICE THE DAY THAT HE MET– THE DAY THAT HE MET BARACK OBAMA FORTHE FIRST TIME THIS WAS TWO DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION IN 2016, ANDIF YOU REMEMBER, IT WAS A MEET THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, LIKE, 20 MINUTES.

AND THEY ENDED UP MEETING FORMORE THAN AN HOUR.

>> Stephen: I.

>> I WENT WITH A– WITH A SMALLGROUP OF REPORTERS, CALLED THE PRESS POOL, INTO THE OVALOFFICE.

AT THE END OF THAT MEET AGO ISTILL HAVE THESE PICTURES AND I TOOK VIDEO ON MY PHONE AS I WASCOMING IN, AND TRUMP FOR THE FIRST TIME ACTUALLY SEEMEDHUMBLED TO ME AND A LITTLE BIT– I GOT THE IMPRESSION– FIRST OFALL, I NEVER THOUGHT HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO WIN THATELECTION.

AND HERE HE WAS IN THE OVALOFFICE FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH BARACK OBAMA HEARING ABOUT ALLTHE PRESSING ISSUES HE WAS GOING TO INHERIT AND HAVE TO DEALWITH.

AND OBAMA WAS LEADING THE MEETAGO I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A ROOM WHERE DONALD TRUMP WASN'TLEADING THE CONVERSATION– AND HE SEEMED A LITTLE BIT BLOWNAWAY.

HE SAID SOME NICE THINGS ABOUTOBAMA, WHICH WAS ALSO SURPRISING.

AND I THOUGHT, WOW, MAYBE THISCHANGED THE GUY.

AND THAT WAS THE LAST I SAW OFIT.

>> Stephen: I KNOW WE'VE GOTTO GO.

WHAT'S YOUR FIRST QUESTION FORTOMORROW'S BRIEFING? >> WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN SOMEREPORTS THAT THE C.

D.

C.

IS CONSIDERING RECOMMENDING THATPEOPLE WEAR FACE MASKS WHEN THEY GO OUT IN PUBLIC, AND I WANT TOGET– I WANT TO SEE IF THAT'S TRUE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING TOTHAT.

AND IF THAT WOULD REALLY BE ARECOMMENDATION, WHERE THE HELL– WHERE THE FACE MAFNGS WOULD COMEFROM.

THAT'S– I TRY TO IN THEBRIEFINGS TRY TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, MUCH LESS THEPOLITICS OF IT.

PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEFEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING, WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTSHOULD BE DOING, AND WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING IN THE FACE OFTHIS CRISIS.

>> Stephen: WELL, THANKS SOMUCH FOR BEING HERE, JONATHAN.

AND CONGRATULATIONS, THE BOOK ISNUMBER ONE ON AMAZON RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU.

I HOPE YOU ENJOY READING IT ASMUCH AS I– I REALLY LOVED WRITING IT.

>> Stephen: I REALLY HAVEENJOYED READING YOUR TITLE WHEN YOU HELD UP THE BOOK IN FRONT OFTHE CAMERA.

>> BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE BOOK, IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING.

>> Stephen: THERE IT IS, THEREIT IS.

“FRONT ROW FOR THE TRUMP SHOW.

” JONATHAN KARL, EVERYBODY.

WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL BEGIVING A LITTLE MESSAGE TO OUR DEAR FRIEND JOHN PRINE.

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